Thread: Does Isagenix Works???

Originally Posted by GETREAL

I can't believe people are going for this stuff!!! I certainly would hope there are no physical trainers or serious dietitians trying to pass this stuff of as healthy. Anyone who knows anything about nutrition and weight loss would clearly be able to spot this "FAD" diet a mile away!!!

I absolutely understand being skeptical about something which sounds this good. The thing you need to remember is, *everyone* who now uses Isagenix was skeptical about it before they tried it. What you need to know is, Isagenix gives a full no-question 30-day return for refund if the program doesn't work for you. you do not need to get a hold of the person who referred you, just contact the company directly: simple, no-hassle refund. What other company on planet Earth does that?

My experience is I used to be 294lbs. I started with Southbeach absolutely religiously for 5 months, and got down to 245. I worked out 4 days a week and did not deviate at all from the eating plan. At 245 I hit a plateau, and could not lose any more weight. I am 6'3 and wanted to get down to 200-210. A friend told me about "this great cleanse that I had to try" and I laughed and said yeah right, I don't think so. I flatly refused to even look into it further, as the word "cleanse" just turned me right off. He believed in it so much that he bought the 9 day program for me, and it arrived on my doorstep. I work in the medical field and have a pretty good understanding of nutrition, so I told him I would do the 9 day program to prove to him that it would not work. I asked him if I had to exercise to have results and he said no, so I did the 9 day program (it's actually done over 11 days) without exercising. I followed it exactly as instructed, fully expecting it to fail and return it for the refund.

I lost 17.5lbs in 11 days.

Without exercising.

I was literally stunned. So, as we are all taught traditionally, if you lose weight quickly you will put it back on quickly, so I went back to eating as I had been, waiting for the lbs to come back on. Now, I didn't go back to eating junk, but back to Southbeach as I had been before. I gained 1lb back in the next week, sitting at 16.5lbs of maintained weight loss. Yes, some of what I lost was water weight, but when you learn about cleansing, you learn that our bodies carry excess water when we are toxic, as a way of trying to dilute those toxins inside us. So don't confuse losing water weight with dehydrating yourself... two different things entirely.

I ordered a 30 day program after that, and long story short I am now at my goal weight and where I want to be. People saw such a change in me in terms of increased energy, and of course the weight loss, that they asked what I was doing, and I passed the information on. As a result of that, I have now directly or indirectly been involved in helping people lose almost 1000lbs of maintained weight, last count was around 925 or so.

I'm not trying to sell you anything, I'm not leaving any contact information, and I have nothing to gain by posting this information other than to pass along something that has literally changed my life, and the lives of my friends and family when I shared this with them. All I would say is keep an open mind, do the research, and if weight loss is important to you, at least know that you can order this program at very little net cost, and have the full security of being able to return it for complete refund after the fact if it hasn't worked for you. The only reason Isagenix can do this is because it works for 95% of the people who use it properly, period.

This program is used by Jack Canfield, author or Chicken Soup For The Soul. This program is used by Dr. John Gray (Men Are From Mars etc). This program is used by Bill Mayer (sp?) one of Oprah Winfrey's personal trainers. This program is used by members of the Dallas Cowboys. These are not people who support or endorse whackjob fad diets. It is an extremely legitimate, scientific program based on very high quality nutrition, which you will find if you do the research on it, as I did.

Best of luck to everyone in their health and weight-loss efforts, whatever program you chose to use. If anyone has any further questions, if you want to post them here I'll do my best to answer them for you.

p.s. It is now 14 months since I started my weight loss, and 9 months since my first Isagenix cleanse. I am still at goal weight.

I think all those negatives response's come from someone who's always looking for the negative in everything> Boy wouldn't you be a joy to be around!!
By the way a little bit of research wouldn't hurt ya>
This system is an all natural source that provides you with everything your body could ever need!! You are cleansing your body of years(for me 33 years) of pestisides, msg, steroid fed meats, food coloring> you name it!! When I'm done my 30 day system my body will be like a new born baby's> Clean and pure! Now tell me who would not want that kind of health!!
So go back to your McDonalds or what-ever it is you eat, and stop putting out bad re-marks for something that could benefit EVERY-BODY> Whether you need or want to loose weight or just become healthier!!

All the naysayer really don't understand the effect of just reducing calories has on the body. This system dose drastically reduce calories however your mineral, and nutritional needs are fully met so that your body is working better than ever. You can't simply buy and consume polluted groceries that have no nutritional value and expect to lose weight and stay healthy.

My cousin lost over 100 lbs, my two sisters over 34, personally - I lost 23, my other cousin lost 60, a friend lost over 120, and I know a nurse who lost over 170lbs - he radically improved his health! Do you think that this people found $260 per month that replaces 70 meals - expensive! Many people spend that much money a month on junk food and eating out.

I also know a number of doctors who highly recommend this program (and they aren't involved with Isagenix) to many of their patients. I personally know two Nutritionists who also highly recommend the system and neither have an Isagenix business. The doctors who are involved with Isagenix are front runners in their fields and got involved due to the quality of the system.

The amount of personal testimonies on this system is amazing

So to "get real" .. I'd like to say get real!

is Isagenix available everywhere?

i just moved to kosovo from canada and im not sure if i can find it here

does anyone know if its sold in the balkans?

My boyfriend's cousin tried this product and she instantly loss 15 pounds within 9 days, this actually ended up kick starting her weight loss and she has lost easily 120lbs within a year, she looks amazing! Its the motivation of seeing the results that made her push herself to the core and I think this is a great product to kick start any weight loss.

i started doing research on isagenix when i found out my mother had started it. what i found worries me. it isn’t the shakes or cleanses, I use shakes on mornings when i don't have the time to eat breakfast and the one i use keeps me full until lunch. what bothers me is the scare tactics i have found on the website. i am a biology student. i am majoring in biochemistry and molecular biology, i know the chemistry of the body and how the body reacts to toxins. and i can tell you i haven’t found a single thing on the website or in the information my mother has that is correct when addressing how the body reacts to toxins and i can tell you there is no study that proves cleanses work. i will say that there is also no study that proves cleanses don't work either.

i applaud anyone who is willing to try and get healthy and lose excess weight. i am on that journey myself and am happy to say i have lost 10lb in the last six weeks, yes that isn't as impressive as the 16.5lb my mom lost in 10 days but none of my weight loss was water weight and i now know proper portion sizes and exercise 4 times a week. i am happier and sleep better then i have in years. all i ask is that people actually research the "science" that goes into any diet before they start and not on the internet as it is very hard to separate fact from fiction, libraries are perfect for researching diets and the "science" behind them

I wasn't surprised to read Meaghan's post about toxins and cleansing. If you read my post about Isagenix elsewhere on this thread you will find that I also found that the information Isagenix provides to its people to be incomplete and lacking in important ways.

There are reasons for this and none of them have anything to do with the effectiveness of the product line.

They have everything to do with the draconian Amercian FDA that is controlled by the "traditional" medical establishment.

There is a site known as Quackwatch. It's populated by doctors who collectively try to identify quackery in medicine. I received their information via e-mail for about a year. The quackwatchers are quacks themselves.

I put it to Stephen Barrett M.D. who runs Quackwatch this way: I asked him that if his people were so concerned with quackery, why were his people not recommending fasting to their patients? Fasting is the oldest, safest, most powerful and most reliable healing technique on the planet and probably dates back to the era when single celled animals ruled the planet. That was about a month ago. He has yet to respond.

To say that fasting has never been studied is simply to reveal that your education is one dimensional - not your fault considering who is providing same. You have to realize that the medical community has no interest in techniques or remedies for which money cannot be charged. In fact they discourage interest in the healing techniques that really are traditional.

Modern medical science is not in any way traditional despite the claims the medical profession likes to make. Modern medicine combined with modern science is very young. It has made remarkable strides in a very short time period. But the entire program runs on money, not free advice.

Isagenix is restricted by law in most countries from making any specific health claims about their products because as Meaghan rightly pointed out there have been no FDA sanctioned studies (she left out the FDA part). Chances are there will be no FDA sanctioned studies until the Obama administration's clean sweep of the cartoon science practiced by the Bush administration is amputated and incinerated. Even so, natural cures still face an uphill battle because there are so many medical dinosaurs in the system.

If any of you need proof or would like to learn more about fasting, you should look up books by Dr Bernard Jensen, Professor Arnold Erhet and Robert Young on the internet. Between them, their material encompasses all anyone needs to know about nutrition and good health.

The Kellogg company that still produces Kellogg Cornflakes was founded as a health spa that promoted fasting. The entire concept was warped by his brother after the founder died. You can look that up too. There's even a TV special about it, though they don't get into the mechanics of what was done.

Meaghan is also right about the libraries to a point. Unfortunately, most library collections are outdated or the latest books not only hard to access; they are difficult to become aware of in the first place. Meaghan being a student has been given a course of study and a list of references the rest of us don't have access to. That makes following any sort of research program virtually impossible for non-students.

The many years I've spent researching health restoration were spent searching for the information. That means actively travelling around all over the place trying to find information that made sense to me. There was no internet for most of it. I had to buy the books I did find. I couldn't down load them. Research means you are searching again for the information the original questing scientist published. The trouble is, you're searching for a title of a book you've never heard of by an author you've never heard of on a subject you don't know anything about but wish you did.

When the internet came along many people saw it as a great opportunity to share information at long last and they have done just that. Sometimes the information is not accurate.

In my case, I've published hundreds of articles on line about health restoration and have gone toe to toe with doctors from all over the world about my information. So far, I've never had to publish a retraction. If someone finds any of my information incorrect, I will do just that and do my best to make sure any errors are made known.

So far there isn't a doctor anywhere who knows anything about fasting that has stepped forward to dispute the value of fasting, proper number of bowel movements per day, mucus free eating vs mucus (pus) forming foods and many other things.

Isagenix has a product line that is much better than it is legally allowed to talk about in public. It is an amazing tool designed to help people restore their own health. The biggest problem with it is not the product line itself. It's the regulatory bodies of the countries where it's sold. Consequently, the scientific processes that could be developed to restore health with no extraordinary expense are not being developed or even considered.

The real work that this system rests on, unwittingly or not, was developed by Professor Arnold Erhet in the 1920's. His work was suppressed by medical communities around the world who saw him as a threat to the newly hatched golden goose - the most profitable fake venture of all time - twentieth century health care. Again, there have been amazing strides in medicine but when Erhet's nutritional techniques enter the picture, the medical community goes into panic mode. Billions of dollars in useless medical research into degenerative diseases would vaporize in a very short time and prestigious reputations would take on the appearance of cheese cloth.

Erhet's work centred on employing the correct foods and timed fasting to achieve what medical people could only describe as miracles - but didn't. Instead every effort was made to discredit him and portray him as a snake oil salesman. That process continues to this day.

Dr. Bernard Jensen - the most famous nutritionist who ever lived built up a good business teaching people how to restore their health from the cellular level on out. He started by using Iridology as a diagnostic technique and became very skilled at it. I learned it from his books myself. It's a technique that's tied tightly to nutritional impacts. In my case, I was never skilled enough to claim to diagnose a specific disease, but I could easily identify problem areas in the body and none of my findings were ever disputed. My nutritional advice did save lives. Lives that would have been lost if doctor's orders had been followed.

Doctors call the shots. But most people don't realize that doctors are almost completely uneducated with respect to nutrition. Anyone with an interest in nutrition can easily learn more than most doctors know by reading Erhet, Jensen or Young in a single afternoon. Yet these blokes are telling nutritionists what they can and cannot say. How much sense does that make?

That isn't to say nutritionists know that much either. They can tell you what constitutes good nutrition to a point, but they can't tell you how to heal yourself with it. Consequently, through no fault of their own, the information they convey is wrong for those trying to restore health. THAT is where the difference is between knowing how to restore health and not knowing how. That is what Isagenix is not allowed to tell you.

If the Isagenix program was developed properly with a tested regimen, the Isagenix product line could be used to empty hospitals around the world and relieve the stress on over burdened medical care systems.

It would seem miraculous but really it would be a simple matter of applying principles that were common knowledge up until science and medicine were corrupted by greed at in the early part of the twentieth century.

Don't forget, the earliests doctors were barbers and butchers first in western countries. They were witchdoctors and shamen in primitive cultures. It turns out that when it came to fasting, the primitive cultures had it right all along.

How do you think wild animals stay healthy? Do they go to some sort of invisible doctor? Do you think they never get injured or sick? Fasting and veggies are the mainstays for the animal kingdom from amphibians and reptiles to man and everything in between.

Isagenix just made fasting easier by providing a simple plan that calls for and delivers balanced nutrion between and during fasts. Isagenix is all about making fasting a regular part of who we are and on that basis, making us much more than we could otherwise be while consuming much less.

The bottom line is that it works.

I find it interesting that gullyfourmyle stated that I have access to resources that others don’t as anyone can walk into a college or university library and use the books they just cant check them out.
also I have read all of the information that was supplied to my mother and listened to everything that she was told. I think from my own research, and I have written papers on diets and nutrition for many classes, that what they are selling is not......truthful. a lot of the claims cannot be proven either way so I find it interesting that the makers of isagenix say their methods are fact supported by science.
oh and by the by you can do a fasting diet without the gimmicks and still take in nutrients in a form that is easily digested. but if the gimmicks help you cope then feel free and jump on this current bandwagon.

Yes anyone can go to a university and read the books. But you would need to know that. That information is not something universities advertise. Then you would need to know your way around the campus to find the library. Having found the library, you would have to ask a librarian to help you find, as I said earlier, something you don't know the name of, written by someone you don't know, on a subject you are entirely unfamiliar with, to find an answer you don't know exists. Having finally found something along those lines, you then discover you can't take the book out to study at liesure. You can sit in unfamiliar surroundings and try to take notes in a notebook you didn't think to bring with you because you've never done this before. Or you can pay money to photocopy a copywrited book. Oops, no you can't because it's copywrited. On the other hand, you aren't going to resell the information so maybe it's okay. Or maybe not. You don't know and don't want to ask.

To go through that exercise is too time consuming, expensive and for most people unproductive. So almost no one does it unless they have a university background. Until recently neither governments nor medical authorities wanted the public to know anything about nutrition or managing their own health. This notion is very recent.

When I started my research back in 1980, the ground breaking recipe book, Diet For a Small Planet, could only be found in bookstores frequented by people then considered social deviants. It was considered a book for spaced out hippies. It was not found in mainline bookstores or grocery stores.

That mindset has changed incrementally in the intervening years but the medical authorities have not helped.

The entire reason why there are all sorts of products out there making claims that may or may not be accurate is because governments in North America have taken the position that natural cures can't possibly work and that the entire concept is fantasy. As long as there are no medical claims the FDA and Health Canada does not care one way or the other. Their nutritional guidelines are the stuff of comic books.

Try stating in the media in the US that Stevia is a sweetner. That will bring the might of the US authorities down on your head in a heartbeat. The sugar lobby is so powerful internationally that even here in Canada, I know of a doctor who lost her license to practice in two weeks thanks to her publishing research about the sugar industry that alerted the public to the hazards of sugar consumption. That is abuse of power.

There've been plenty of claims over the years about all sorts of things from garlic, to Vitamin E that research has discovered don't work as advertised. But they do still work for a host of other things. But at the same time our soils are being depleted of minerals and other trace elements that are vital to health. Not just ours, all living things. Modern science is nowhere near figuring out how to repair the damage done to our land and water so that our food regain its vitality. That is a whole other discussion if you want to go there.

Then we have to say okay, this is what's being said in your nutrition class. But is what you are learning accurate? What are you being taught about mucus forming foods and how dangerous they are? Anything?

Are you being taught the principles of fasting? Are you being taught how to use foods to heal? That is the practical application of nutrition. Anything short of that is dabbling. Sort of like being Suzie homemaker with a food guide.

What do they teach you to heal with lemon and water? Or just straight water? You can't get more basic than that but there are important things to know.

In my thread on Isagenix, like you, I stated clearly that no one needs Isagenix or any other product beyond water and specific foods to restore health. Isagenix just makes the process easier and possible for beginners. There are other systems out there that are more aggressive and work faster. Think of it as a tricycle for a person who wants to learn to fly a plane. You have to start somewhere. The problem is, as simple as Isagenix is, the average North American is so nutritionally ignorant that Isagenix seems like rocket science or outrageous quackery. It is neither. It is based on common sense in terms of how it helps get a patient from where he or she is to where he or she needs to be.

So there is a certain amount of showmanship built into the system. I said that too in not so many words. But when you're dealing with a population that's so fundamentally clueless, it's the easiest way to convert them from diets that injure and kill to diets that, regardless what your nutrition course tells you, will improve their health in dramatic fashion - if they follow instructions and stay the course.

Why is the general population so completely unaware that their nutrition is unfit for a starving guppy? You can lay that at the feet of a monumental coalition of government, marketing, big business and greed. You can't call it a conspiracy even though it looks that way. The players who put the system in place to destroy the environment along with the food supply all thought initially they were doing something wonderful. Even today, nearly all of them are just as clueless as everyone else and just as suspicious of the word "fast".

The word "fast" when it refers to anything to do with food indicates starvation to nearly everyone. It inspires fear instead of what it really means - a new lease on life.

What's in the Isagenix products isn't nearly as important as reintroducing the concept of fasting to the sickest species - us. Humanity is the only species that has brainwashed itself into believing junk food is real food and real food isn't food. There isn't a species in existence that needs to fast and fast regularly as badly as we do.

Years ago, I met with the top nutritional scientist in Canada. I wanted his take on my research into constipation and the dangers of dairy products. It turned out Canada's top scientist agreed with me on every important point. Why weren't scientists including cancer researchers conducting research to prove my points right or wrong?

"They're pigs at the trough," he said.

Then he gave me full access to his library and invited me to borrow whatever I liked. My choices included journals that recorded all of the cancer research that had been going on in Canada for years funded by government. They were for the early eighties. There was not a single smidgeon of research that made any kind of common sense. None of it had anything to do with the relationship between dairy, red meat, flour products, eggs or rice and cancer. The hypotheses read like modern abstract art and were every bit as irrelevant to cancer as modern art is.

Decades later, this obvious research has still not been done and there is no political will to get it done. The food industry wants no part of it and the medical community doesn't want to know.

There were thousands of projects described in these journals and millions upon millions of dollars were being raised to support this garbage research by cancer victims, their families, friends, concerned citizens and corporations. Every time I see people running for a cancer cure it makes me want to throw up. Even with the advances that have been made I believe Cancer research remains the biggest fraud perpetrated in the history of mankind.

We're not talking here about people conducting research with an intent to cure anything. We're talking about the most expensive make work program on earth funded by the emotionally vulnerable.

You have to ask yourself - just what is the aim of your nutrition course? Are you going to tell people they're going to feel better if they eat balanced meals? Or are you going to describe techniques that will help them regain colonic health and save them from a colostomy at the hands of a gastroenterologist who is a specialist when it comes to colons but who knows zero about helping his patients keep their colons but is an expert at replacing it with an externally worn plastic bag?

Ethics is a big part of the nutritional game and so far, there are very few honest practitioners. As dubious as you may think Isagenix's literature is, you have to remember who they're talking to. You have to remember that right now, the general public is allergic to complicated health explanations.

As popular as this site may seem to you, it doesn't generate much traffic. That is not the fault of the site owner or the subject matter. Most people don't know enough or care enough about their own health to learn anything about the subject until disaster is about to strike or has already struck.

Isagenix is not perfect but it does work as advertised. When it doesn't there are underlying reasons. On my thread I've offered a couple of solutions that do not have to involve Isagenix or any other system.

And let's not forget exercise. That's part of it too but Isagenix doesn't sell exercise equipment. Isagenix and fasting only take the consumer so far. At some point, the consumer actually has to do some work.

What I'd like to see from you Meaghan is some sort of contribution that helps people heal and that's based on what you're learning. Start applying your education right here in the real world.

There's no doubt in my mind that you must be learning something worthwhile. Why not share it? That would be a worthy dialogue and perhaps you'll be able to dispell some myths and we'll all be the better for it.

This is a great chance to help a lot of people you'll never know. Don't worry about criticism, just go for it. Your opinion counts.